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Whoa!

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No way.

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I believe I saw a flying human being.

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Oh, yeah?

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Whoa.

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I'm not really sure why anything would make an astray explode.

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You have unfinished business here?

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Pull the dummy!

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Whoa!

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Make the move!

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What the?

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Fire!

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Oh, my God.

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There's a flying saucer.

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I'm getting a series of lights right there.

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So you see what I'm seeing?

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What the heck is happening?

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Hey, Ben.

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Hey, guys.

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Have a seat.

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So, guys, what did you find?

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Well, I can kick this off.

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I have a video clip that takes place in Greensburg, Pennsylvania.

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So, a man is taking a drive on a deserted road

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when he sees a mysterious pair of UFOs in the sky

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through a grove of trees.

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He immediately picks up his camera, he starts reporting,

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and this is when he captured.

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Wow, look at that.

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For me, the best part of this video is that the eyewitness, Tom McLean,

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he says that he's a complete skeptic,

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he has no interest in UFOs,

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and he just simply can't find a logical explanation

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for what he captured that day.

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You know what?

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Look at the way the UFO seems to move in tandem.

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Why couldn't it just be balloons?

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Not to mention that the trees really muddle the image,

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so if there's anything holding those things up,

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you wouldn't be able to tell because of the branches.

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I think this is just too low-tech to be extraterrestrial.

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Well, you guys make some good points.

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Why don't we put this one on the sidelines for now?

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All right.

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All right, who's up?

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All right, guys, I have an amazing clip for you.

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It was 2008, and David Rojas,

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who's an amateur paranormal researcher in Mexico,

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set out to find the truth about the dark legend

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of La Bruja Lechusa.

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Okay, now, La Bruja is actually just a witch,

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and Rojas claims while exploring some caves

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right outside of Mexico City,

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he captured footage of an actual witch taking flight.

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Check this out.

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Oh, wow.

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Wow, that thing just takes off.

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To me, it looks like it was just floating there,

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and then it just took off.

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I mean, it looks like it's flying.

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I know a bit about the Bruja legend,

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and it's actually said that these witches

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can take the shape of a bird.

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Well, I think that there might be a good reason

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to be suspicious here.

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My first thought is that someone was standing

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on top of the cave,

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and they pull an object out from the mouth.

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A lot of skeptics agree,

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but he is claiming that he has nothing to gain

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from hoaxing this video.

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Well, you know, this legend is really well known

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so maybe there is something to it.

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I love witch cases,

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and this is really popular in the Latin community,

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so I think we should put it top of list

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and come back to it.

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Cool.

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Sounds good.

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Guys, I have for you one of the most controversial

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and iconic UFO cases in history,

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Now, these were taken in 1950 in McMinnville, Oregon.

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Paul Trent's wife was there at the farmhouse,

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and she spots a craft outside and informs Paul.

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She tells Paul he runs inside and grabs his camera.

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Now, by the time he gets out there,

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he's only able to get off two photos

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before the thing speeds up.

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There's the first one.

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And here's the second one that he was able to take.

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Lanishi, you know what these photos remind me of?

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Rex Heflin case.

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Yes.

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The Rex Heflin case we did.

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Now, these photos were featured prominently in Life magazine

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and other major newspapers around the country.

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These photos are considered classics,

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but, I mean, there's always been a large contingent

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in the UFO community that believed that these are hoaxes.

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and they found no indication that they were doctored in any way.

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some skeptics did their own analysis of the photos.

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According to the results, these shadows indicate

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that the photos were taken in the morning,

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and Trent claims to have taken his photos at dusk.

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On top of that, it looks like the objects could almost just be

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suspended from the power lines that we're seeing right there

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Our debate is an example of why these photos

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are still talked about today.

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Well, Devin, why don't you tell us what you have?

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My clip was taken in 2010 at a location that some say

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is among the most mystical places on Earth.

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Stonehenge.

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So supposedly, a tourist captured something that he couldn't explain.

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Check this out.

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That's so interesting.

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It looks like a human form against one of the monoliths.

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Well, you can tell from the video that it's pretty sunny.

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creating that image?

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The rock base is already in shadow.

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I don't see how a second shadow could form to create the image that we're seeing.

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I think we'd all enjoy a chance to investigate at Stonehenge,

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but is the video compelling enough to warrant the journey out there?

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Why don't we mull it over for a bit and see what else we have?

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Alicia, that leaves you.

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All right, guys, I have a really cool video that comes from a working tavern.

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Now, in May 2011 in Humboldt, Texas, two surveillance cameras at Colburn's bar

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Now, when you watch the video, you'll see an illuminated object move through the bar,

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and then this ashtray seemingly out of nowhere just shatters.

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It's really crazy. Take a look.

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She's explode. You see it's shatter, right?

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Didn't know what was happening.

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You see that, right?

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That thing really just explodes and there is nothing around it.

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Before the owner purchased the bar, there were stories of killings there.

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hearing strange noises, and even just the overall feeling of being watched.

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So what we're seeing is just one of many phenomena happening at this bar.

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I mean, this seems like there could be a number of tasks we could perform to try to replicate what we see here.

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Yeah. And the fact that there's no audio on this tape, it does lend to some hoax possibilities.

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Guys, I really like this case.

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So let's put this at the top of the list and compare it to everything else we've seen today.

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Well, I really like my tandem UFO case, but I also love the legend of the Bruja.

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I'm up for the Bruja as well.

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I mean, I think there's a wide variety of diverse experiments that we could do,

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and I think it's a worthwhile challenge.

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You guys, as much as I want to go to Stonehenge, LaNisha,

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I didn't expect you to bring in an exploding ashtray.

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That's where I'm going.

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For me, LaNisha, that tape that you found is ideal.

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That's the case I'd like to be a part of.

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Jaya on Austin, why don't we go to Mexico and investigate LaBruja Lechusa

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and build LaNisha and Devin ashtray ghost.

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Texas, good guys.

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We're in Humboldt, Texas.

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Heading to the Colpens bar to meet with the owner James Colburn

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is also the guy that you see walking in the background.

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The night this original video was recorded.

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And here we are.

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It doesn't look like the typical haunted place.

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Hi, welcome to Colburns.

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James?

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How you doing? Bill?

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Good to meet you, Bill.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice to meet you.

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This is Crystal.

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She is the young lady who was wiping the bar down in the video.

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Have either of you had experiences that you would consider to be paranormal?

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From the moment I opened this bar, it's always, I felt like someone's watching me.

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I was talking to some customers one night and it felt like someone

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I turned around the look and there was nobody there.

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I was really shaking.

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It gave me chills.

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I was bartending one night.

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I felt like something hit my neck.

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There was nothing there.

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The former owner of the bar, he put a revolver to his head

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and committed suicide here at the back door of the bar.

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I believe he's still here.

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I had just come into the building after walking the last customer out.

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As I got about right in this vicinity of the bar,

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I heard an explosion, like a glass breaking.

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And it was so loud, though, that it was not like anything we've heard before.

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This is the location that the ashtray was in.

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So from where you were standing, Crystal, what happened?

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As I was wiping, I heard something shatter.

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I looked up because I thought maybe a glass fell, broke something.

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She's had several of these glasses in the past flung at her.

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And that's what we thought it was, was one of these glasses falling and just crashing.

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But then I realized, like, that the pieces were bigger and that it was an ashtray.

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And I realized that I had a camera behind you and behind the bar.

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So I told her, I said, let's go back in the back and take a look at this.

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Is your surveillance system still accessible?

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Can we hook up our video feeds up to it and use it?

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Absolutely, very easily done.

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Do you have any possible explanation?

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I'm not really sure why anything would make an ashtray explode

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other than to get our attention and let us know they're here.

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Can you tell me with 100% certainty that you're not aware or we're not involved

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with any sort of hoax or prank?

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What you're seeing on the video is 100% real.

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James, Crystal, thanks for your time. We really appreciate it.

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You're on your own. Thank you.

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So now that we've spoken to James and Crystal about their surveillance footage,

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we're going to launch them to a full investigation and see if we can replicate the original video.

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When you look at the original video, you can see the small point of light

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that moves through the bar towards the ashtray right before it explodes.

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Well, that light entity definitely plays into the theory that there's something

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paranormal behind the exploding ashtray.

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But since that light can easily be replicated,

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I think we should focus on the ashtray for our experiments.

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So what could have made that ashtray explode?

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What if something very small fell from above and that's what shattered the ashtray?

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You know, that's a logical place to start these experiments.

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You know, I can stand on the bar right here where the wine glasses are

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So we could start with a fastener that might have been used to hold these wine glasses in place.

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And I'll feed both security cameras to our monitor

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so that we can see what's being recorded in real time.

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For the falling object experiment,

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Devon is going to be standing on the bar dropping different sized screws onto the ashtrays below.

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Devon, I'll cue you when to drop the fastener.

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Great.

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And I'm going to go ahead and start recording.

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Starting with a very small screw standing by.

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All right, guys.

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Three, two, one.

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Go, Devon.

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Coming up on Fact or Fake Paranormal Files.

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All right, Devon, release the ball.

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Whoa!

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No way.

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Do you have unfinished business here?

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Is that even up to technical help?

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Yes, it is.

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What is going on here?

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We're testing the theory that a small object, like a screw,

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fell from above and hit the ashtray right in the sweet spot, causing it to explode.

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Hopefully, we'll be able to replicate the video using this method.

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Devon, I'll cue you when to drop the fastener.

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Great.

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And I'm going to go ahead and start recording.

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Starting with a very small screw standing by.

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All right, guys.

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Three, two, one.

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Go, Devon.

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Wow, okay.

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No visible damage.

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Nothing at all?

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Nothing.

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Not even a chip.

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Wow.

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That's a replacement.

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We're definitely going to have to go with something heavier.

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I say we move on to something a little more drastic and use the steel ball bearing.

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All right, Devon.

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Three, two, one.

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Release the ball.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Great.

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Look at the paddle.

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Look at all the hairline fractures in the glass.

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Great work, Devon.

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Nice.

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All right, guys.

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Let's check it out.

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Look at the paddle when this thing breaks.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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It's pretty dramatic.

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I'm noticing that in the original video, the explosion seems to flower up and out.

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And in our video, it tends to flower down in a circle, which makes me think that whatever

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caused the ash tray to break originated from the center and possibly from underneath the

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ash tray.

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The other thing is when you're looking at the video that we just shot, you can see the

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falling object.

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You can see the ball bearing.

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In the original video, you see nothing at all.

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You just see the shadow.

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And do you know what, if a falling object had hit the ash tray, you would have seen something

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in the debris.

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There is another natural explanation that could cause glass to shatter.

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A sudden temperature change, thermal shock.

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That's right.

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If you make cold glass and expose it to heat quickly, that could cause it to shatter.

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It's a natural explanation, and I think we should test it.

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Me too.

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Our last experiment was revealing.

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You could clearly see the object fall through frame before hitting the ash tray, which we

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didn't see in the original video.

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So now we're going to continue on with our investigation, this time using the concept

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of thermal shock.

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Well, you know what?

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I was checking out the area where the ash tray was sitting, and I noticed that it was really

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cold.

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So I looked underneath and look.

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You see ice bins under here.

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Maybe the ash tray could have been set on a piece of ice without them even knowing it.

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Because there's so much ice over here, we should test the idea that it was sat here for a long

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period of time.

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It became cold, and then maybe a cigarette ember or a lip match was introduced, and that's

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what caused it to go into thermal shock.

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So I'm going to prep two ash trays.

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I'll put both in the ice to get it super cold.

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We can get a more consistent burn with a coal versus a cigarette ember, so for testing purposes,

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we'll use a hot coal.

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Place it right on the center with some tongs.

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Nice.

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I'll set up my thermal imager on a tripod.

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That way we can gauge the temperature of the ash tray and record everything.

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Okay.

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Sounds good.

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All right.

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When glass is heated or cooled unevenly, the section that's affected will expand or contract.

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The rest of the glass that's at a constant temperature remains unchanged.

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The changed section tends to break away from the rest of the glass.

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This is known as thermal shock, and this is the experiment we're about to begin.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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Okay, ready?

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Stand back.

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Okay.

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All right.

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This thing is getting burning hot.

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Thermal shock experiment in three, two, one, cue the coal.

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I hear a sizzle a little bit, but I don't see any cracking.

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I think we need to take this to the next level.

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Let's use the blowtorch and put it right on a frozen ash tray.

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All right.

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Let's try it.

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Okay.

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Torch is ready.

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Okay.

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Go, Devon.

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Whoa.

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That was an explosion.

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I got glass thrown over here, too.

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Why don't you guys come on over for a side-by-side?

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Now, this shows we can definitely create an exploding ash tray with a temperature shift,

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but when you look at the original clip here, all of the glass remains right on the bar.

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With ours, the explosion was so big, glass has been spread almost over this entire place.

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Absolutely.

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I mean, it definitely still exploded in an omnidirectional pattern, which is the same

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as the original video, but we really had to put some high heat on that just to get it to go.

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In theory, a temperature shift could have been a reasonable explanation for what we're seeing

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in the regional video, but in practice, the experiment was flawed.

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What do you say we start cleaning this stuff up and we'll move on to our next experiment?

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Yeah, that sounds good.

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Now, we were able to create a similar omnidirectional explosion by using extreme heat,

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which is a little bit unrealistic, so we're going to move on to test the theory that this video might have been hoaxed.

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So we've tested the most plausible natural explanations and still haven't been able to replicate the original video.

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Well, you know, one popular theory amongst effects specialists is a glass popper.

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I mean, a glass popper is basically a miniature nail gun with a charge inside of it.

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Someone does have to physically detonate the glass popper, but it could have been anybody who was at the bar.

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Okay, well, I'll tell you what then, let's get this thing rigged up and I can start programming the remote detonator.

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And I'll take the wires, run it through the bar well and make sure to hide it with the mat.

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You know what, since we're dealing with explosives, we're going to need some air protection.

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Yes, when this popper goes off, it's going to be very loud, you guys.

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So now we're going to test the theory that this exploding glass astray was not the result of poltergeist activity,

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but rather a hoax using a simple pyrotechnic stunt.

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Hopefully, the small explosive device will evenly shot at the astray like we see in the original clip.

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All right, detonator's on.

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I'm ready.

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All right, explosion in three, two, one, fire!

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In 2008, local paranormal researchers were called in to investigate the home of a couple worried that an evil presence was terrifying their two small sons.

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During the investigation, an IR camera fixed on the crib where the children slept picked up a mysterious ghostly anomaly.

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But is this footage fact or faked? The answer when we return.

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When paranormal researchers captured footage of this mysterious apparition emanating from a child's crib,

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believers claimed it was proof of an actual ghost.

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But is it fact or faked?

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Faked.

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The family actually has twin boys, both of whom were in the crib when this video was shot.

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The ghostly image is a simple case of misidentification.

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It's a combination of the second child standing up with a motion blur created by the IR camera.

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So now we're going to test the theory that this exploding glass astray was not the result of poltergeist activity,

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but rather a hoax using a simple pyrotechnic stunt.

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All right, detonator's on.

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I'm ready.

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All right, explosion in three, two, one, fire!

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Fire!

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Oh!

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That was awesome.

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We got the same omnidirectional explosion.

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We've got a little bit more glass sliding around.

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Well, let's see how this looks on video. Let's do our side by side right away.

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Whoa!

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Did you see that?

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I did. Now, you know what?

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Look how the glass stayed in that same omnidirectional pattern that we see in the original.

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I mean, it looks like it explodes from within.

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I mean, the first thing that I noticed is that in our footage, you can see the small glass popper,

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and you can also see a small bill of smoke, which we don't have in the original video.

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The shattering, though, it looks pretty close to the original video.

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You know, I think with our experiments, we've been able to explode the astray,

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but that still doesn't account for the numerous reports of paranormal activity here.

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So let's grab our gear and we'll sweep the bar looking for any signs of paranormal activity.

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Okay, sounds good.

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All right.

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With years of an accumulated history and eyewitness accounts here at Colvin's Bar,

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it's time we do our own nighttime investigation to see what we can turn up.

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All right, guys, so each of these monitors are set up to correspond with a specific IR camera.

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Now, the first two correspond with the two surveillance cameras that captured the original footage we're investigating.

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The third is watching the back door where the previous owner committed suicide.

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And the fourth is framed up to match the pool table area,

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which is the main area not covered by the two surveillance cameras.

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Nice.

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I am going to be monitoring with an EMF detector and a thermal camera,

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looking for anything abnormal in temperature or electromagnetic field.

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Well, I'm going to be conducting an EVP session in the rear hall where the previous owner committed suicide.

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All right, well, before you go, here's a walkie.

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Thank you.

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Make sure you're staying good contact.

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Okay.

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We'll be good to go once you guys kill the light.

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All right, we're on it.

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Go dark.

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Kevin, I have visual of you and on camera for.

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I'm going to be setting up my digital audio recorder.

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I'm having an EVP session.

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Copy that.

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What is that?

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Denver, LaNisha.

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Go for LaNisha.

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Hey, I'm getting an odd cold spot on the wall.

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I'm thinking maybe it's a pipe or something,

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but I'm just going to see if I can hear anything on the other side of this wall.

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That's a good idea, Sam.

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I don't know if you hear anything.

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If it's a pipe, I should hear something.

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If there's anybody here, why don't you speak to us?

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Do you have unfinished business here?

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Is there something you didn't get to say because you ended your life?

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Say it now.

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Guys, I'm not hearing anything on the other side of that wall.

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I don't think there's any pipes there.

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I'm going to make a note of that.

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That could be signs of something paranormal.

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I'm just going to go to the far side of the bar

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and see if there's any other cold spots or if it's just that one wall.

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No way.

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Bill, have you been over at the bar anytime leaning on it

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at all, transferring body heat?

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Negative.

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I'm picking up a heat signature on the bar.

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It just seems to be by itself sitting there, a big red spot.

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Will you come and join me over here?

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I'm on the way.

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Hey, hey, check this out.

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Look, look, look, look.

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Right here.

486
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I see it.

487
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We did our blowtorch experiment hours ago.

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It's impossible for this to be residual heat.

489
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What's going on out there, guys?

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Lanisha, we are picking up a heat signature on the bar

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that's the same side as the ashtray exploded.

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Hey, guys, can you check and see if there's any electrical cords

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running underneath the bar?

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Copy that, Lanisha.

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Bill's checking right now.

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Lanisha, there's definitely electrical conduit running across,

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but it's not like anything is warm.

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I got my hands right on it.

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I want to try something.

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If you're seeing a different kind of a thing,

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I want to try something.

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If you're seeing it here, I want to put my hand on that same spot.

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Okay?

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I got my hands on it, right?

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Yep, you sure do.

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Okay.

507
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,000
Has the heat signature changed at all?

508
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,000
It's changed with your hand on it.

509
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
Your hand is clearly hotter.

510
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,000
Maybe this is a communication attempt.

511
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,000
I'm going to move my hand away.

512
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000
Tell me if you see anything other than my handprint

513
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000
and that original heat spot.

514
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000
Okay?

515
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,000
I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

516
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,000
What the heck?

517
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Making up a heat signature on the bar,

518
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,000
it just seems to be by itself sitting there, a big red spot.

519
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000
I want to try something.

520
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Tell me if you see anything other than my handprint

521
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,000
and that original heat spot.

522
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Okay.

523
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,000
Okay?

524
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,000
I don't see anything out of the ordinary.

525
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,000
What the heck?

526
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000
Hold on, hold on, hold on.

527
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000
Are you guys okay?

528
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,000
Devon from LaNisha, did you pick up anything on the IR right now

529
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,000
because a glass just shattered behind the bar?

530
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,000
I saw a glass ball.

531
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Is that EMF detector going up by itself?

532
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Yes, it is.

533
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000
What is going on here?

534
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,000
Yes, started out.

535
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Tell me what happened in Texas.

536
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,000
We went to Humble, Texas to investigate the possible poltergeist activity

537
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000
at Coldburn's Bar and see if we could replicate that mysterious exploding ashtray.

538
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,000
So for our first experiment, we wanted to test the possibility

539
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,000
that a falling object fell down, hit the ashtray, and caused it to explode.

540
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Here are the results.

541
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Wow.

542
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,000
Definitely exploded.

543
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000
In order to get this experiment to work,

544
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000
we had to use something that had enough mass to get the ashtray to break.

545
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,000
And in this case, we used a metal ball bearing.

546
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Unfortunately, the ball bearing is not a part of the manufacturing of the glass rack.

547
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,000
Plus, we didn't see anything falling in the original video.

548
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,000
So that made it an unlikely scenario.

549
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,000
So we moved on to another natural explanation

550
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000
that maybe this ashtray exploded due to thermal shock.

551
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,000
So we took the ashtray and we chilled it and applied heat,

552
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,000
but we weren't getting the reaction that we needed.

553
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,000
So we took it to the extreme and applied a blow torch to it.

554
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Check it out.

555
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000
Whoa!

556
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000
Okay.

557
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,000
That really shattered and it went everywhere.

558
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,000
Yeah.

559
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,000
We had to apply such high temperatures that it really made that scenario unlikely

560
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,000
that it was due to temperature shifts.

561
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,000
So then we decided to test the possibility that the ashtray was rigged up

562
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,000
to something like a small pyrotechnics device known as a glass popper.

563
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,000
We got some pretty good results.

564
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000
Take a look.

565
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000
Okay.

566
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Did you see that?

567
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Yeah.

568
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000
Yeah, definitely shattered.

569
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,000
But I did see a little bit of smoke in yours.

570
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000
So this experiment got me thinking.

571
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000
If we could use a glass popper to explode an ashtray

572
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,000
and result in a similar pattern that we see in the original video,

573
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,000
let's go back to that original video and examine it a little bit closer.

574
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000
I grabbed a frame and enlarged it a thousand percent.

575
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,000
Wow.

576
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,000
All right.

577
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,000
This is actually the ashtray here.

578
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:06,000
And then we have this dark object laying in the ashtray

579
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,000
and it's got leads that seem to come over the edge and then down underneath the bar.

580
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,000
So that's exactly how we ended up wiring ours.

581
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000
This image is so degraded though that it's evidence that could be considered inconclusive,

582
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,000
but it really does look like there's something in the ashtray.

583
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:26,000
So this image does suggest the possibility that the original video could have been hoaxed,

584
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
but it still doesn't explain why.

585
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:33,000
Yeah, and I believe that James believes that there's something paranormal going on at his bar.

586
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000
So with all the reports regarding paranormal activities surrounding Colburn's bar,

587
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,000
we decided that a night investigation was in order and it's exactly what we did.

588
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000
And I swept the bar looking for any anomalous heat signatures

589
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000
and it turns out I found one right over where the ashtray exploded.

590
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,000
And just as Devin found that unusual heat signature,

591
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,000
a glass literally flew from off the glass rack directly above the bar where the ashtray was positioned.

592
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,000
What?

593
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,000
And we caught it from two different angles.

594
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:05,000
You can see one of our camera operators in the shot, but it's really interesting footage.

595
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Take a look guys.

596
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,000
What?

597
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Yeah!

598
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Yes!

599
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,000
That's amazing!

600
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000
The glasses were slid back on the rack at least six inches.

601
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000
Nothing could have fallen by itself.

602
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:27,000
It is a bar rack designed to hold glasses engineered so they won't do that and fall.

603
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,000
This is not the end of it.

604
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Earlier in the night, I recorded an EVP session in the hallway that leads to the alley

605
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,000
where the previous owner had shot himself with a gun.

606
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,000
And I was asking some questions and why don't you play this audio file and you can hear the response.

607
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Do you have unfinished business here?

608
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,000
Whoa! That sounds like a door slamming.

609
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000
See to me it sounds like a gun firing.

610
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Do you have unfinished business here?

611
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,000
Right under your last word, you hear a slight...

612
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000
I'm just trying to wrap my mind around all of this.

613
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000
What do you guys think about Colburn's Bar?

614
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Based on my personal experience being there, as far as poltergeist activity at Colburn's Bar, fact.

615
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:12,000
After the results of our experiments, I was pretty sure there's nothing going on that's paranormal at Colburn's.

616
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,000
But then our night investigation kind of threw us a curveball.

617
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
So I'm torn you guys. I don't know.

618
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,000
Well it seems that there's a consensus that the video quite possibly was hoaxed.

619
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:27,000
But at the same time, to me it's obvious there's something going on in this bar that makes it paranormal.

620
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,000
So, tell us about your Mexican adventure.

621
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:49,000
Well, we went down south to a place called Calacuaya just outside of Mexico City where David Rojas claims he captured actual footage of a witch taking flight.

622
00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:05,000
So here we are in Calacuaya just outside of Mexico City investigating the legendary case of La Bruja La Chusa which was filmed by David Rojas.

623
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,000
So David says that he was out at these old mining caves when he hears movement at the mouth of the cave.

624
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:16,000
So he points his camera and he captures what looks like a robed figure taking flight.

625
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,000
David should be waiting for us. The caves are right up there it looks like.

626
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Let's get his side of the story and see what happens.

627
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,000
Hey, I'm Ben. Hi guys. Nice to meet you. How are you, Ben? This is Chael.

628
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,000
What prompted you to come to these caves and actually investigate this?

629
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:53,000
I came to the caves to investigate Rojas and the people who live around here have seen like a flying entity and that's why they call it a witches cave.

630
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,000
And that's what compelled us to come and make the investigation.

631
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000
What happened that day? It kind of run us through it.

632
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:10,000
I believe I saw a flying human being. We wanted to get like a glimpse of the whole cave so I would walk in this way

633
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:17,000
and when we were coming back and I turned to the entrance of the cave I saw this figure like floating.

634
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:30,000
It was like bending down and when it saw me I ran towards it and when I ran towards this entity, the witch, it just stood up and took off.

635
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,000
How large was this entity that you saw?

636
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000
We could say a buzz about your size.

637
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Did you hear anything? Was anyone saying anything?

638
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,000
No, nothing. What kind of camera was it?

639
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,000
This is a camera. If you want to do your experiment, you can do it with the same camera.

640
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Thank you.

641
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,000
You're very welcome.

642
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,000
Well, David, thank you so much.

643
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Okay, you have a great time. Bye.

644
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Bye.

645
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:07,000
Alright guys, according to the legend of Labruchalachusa, the witch can take on a form of an animal like a large bird.

646
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:14,000
I mean, it has to be a big bird though. Something like a condor or an owl maybe. I mean something with a really large wingspan.

647
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Well spotted owls are large. They're nocturnal birds that are actually indigenous to this area.

648
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:26,000
It's quite possible that these investigators frightened an owl that was resting and it flew out of the cave to get away.

649
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:32,000
I mean, when we look at natural explanations, I think this is really the only possibility that's possible.

650
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Well, this is perfect guys because I've contacted the local bird handler and he's got just the thing that we need, so let's go meet him.

651
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,000
Mucho gusto. Yo soy Jael. Este es Ben y Austin.

652
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Hola, cómo estáis? Bien.

653
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
Ask him how big the wingspan could be on a bird like this.

654
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000
Qué tan grande es la envergadura de las alas.

655
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,000
Bueno, él alcanza medidas.

656
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
They span at about 80 to 85 centimeters.

657
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
They actually build their nests inside these caves.

658
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
I'm going to ask him how he best thinks we could set this up.

659
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Es mejor que lo hacemos cuante, aguante o a la percha.

660
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Bueno, ella está acostumbrada a su percha.

661
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000
She's really used to flying to a purse because she's accustomed to it and feels comfortable there.

662
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:18,000
So, why don't we just use that and I'll take the owl and the glove and cast it off into the air.

663
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:25,000
So, I'll head into the cave, I'll set up the camera and then I'll follow the same path from David's video until I land where you are.

664
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,000
And then I'll give you a 3-2-1 and you can cast off the bird.

665
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Excellent. Hey buddy, you want to come with me and do a little flying?

666
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,000
Okay, come on.

667
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000
So, Ben's positioned himself at the start point with the owl. Jael's framing up the camera.

668
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000
I'm going to set this percha up directly out of the frame on this ledge.

669
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,000
That way it'll attract the owl, creating the exact same flight pattern we see from the Bruja in the original video.

670
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
I've got her spotted out and I'm in position.

671
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:56,000
I'm going to try and get low enough so that you don't see my hand when I do what's called casting off.

672
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:03,000
I'll be throwing her up into the air and hopefully she sees her perch right up there where Austin is and she'll go right to it.

673
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000
Birds in position, waiting on your countdown Jael.

674
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Starting the pan.

675
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,000
And three.

676
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Two.

677
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000
One.

678
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Release owl.

679
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000
We're going to start our experiments by looking at the natural explanation.

680
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000
Now we have a spotted owl, which is common to the area.

681
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,000
The spotted owl will start out here at the mouth of the cave.

682
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:49,000
Hopefully we can get it to fly right across the same trajectory as the object we saw in the video.

683
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,000
Starting the pan.

684
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,000
And three.

685
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Two.

686
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
One.

687
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,000
Release owl.

688
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,000
How'd that go?

689
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
That was pretty good guys.

690
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,000
Why don't you come on by and take a look?

691
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Alright.

692
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,000
Ready?

693
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Here we go.

694
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Starts the pan.

695
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,000
Okay.

696
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,000
And there it is.

697
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,000
You see that?

698
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,000
You know what?

699
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,000
The speed's pretty close.

700
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
It is dark Christian color.

701
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,000
The flight pattern was exact.

702
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
But the problem is that you can see wings flapping.

703
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,000
You can see that it's a bird.

704
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,000
Well yeah, absolutely.

705
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
I mean we did get her to fly diagonally.

706
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
But in the original footage you can actually see arms.

707
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,000
And then as it launches the arms like straighten.

708
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,000
Yeah.

709
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,000
And then it flies off.

710
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000
I mean if we were going with the natural explanation, I think you're right.

711
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
This is the only thing I think it could have been.

712
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,000
But now we know.

713
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000
This isn't it.

714
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Why did we test this out?

715
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,000
Because a lot of people believe that the witches are related and take form, you know, into

716
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,000
owls.

717
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,000
But this definitely is not an owl.

718
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,000
I really think we have to look at the hoaxes from here on out.

719
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,000
Alright guys.

720
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,000
You did a good job.

721
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000
But it looks like we've got to move on to a hoax theory, huh?

722
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,000
Sorry.

723
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,000
Alright guys, you know what I was thinking?

724
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:21,000
What if what David caught was actually just somebody running up the side, hitting this ledge doing

725
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,000
a parkour-like move where he actually just scaled the ledge.

726
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000
That's interesting.

727
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,000
You know I have heard of parkour.

728
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,000
It's an extreme sport where the objective is to navigate city streets and buildings

729
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,000
using simply the combination of running, jumping and climbing.

730
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,000
If you look at it, there's a natural step right here.

731
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:44,000
I could hit that, pivot from here, try to extend my body out to give that brouhaha look,

732
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,000
flip over.

733
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000
And I mean there's literally a sinkhole on the other side.

734
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,000
I could dip through it.

735
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,000
So when you film, you see a brouhaha, you run out, I'm gone.

736
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000
Can you do that without hurting yourself?

737
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
We're about to find out, I think.

738
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,000
I love it.

739
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,000
In order to be safe, we'll put crash pads on the inside.

740
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,000
And on top of that, I'll put on my rock climbing shoes, give me more traction.

741
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Now it's just a matter of seeing if we can get the same flight trajectory.

742
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Let's try it.

743
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Do this.

744
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,000
Okay.

745
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,000
I have a full black jumpsuit.

746
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,000
This is going to help me give the same look, shape and color as the brouhaha in the original video.

747
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
I've also equipped myself with special shoes and gloves for grip.

748
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Now it's just a matter of making my body create a motion that'll give the same flight trajectory

749
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,000
as the brouhaha in the original footage.

750
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000
Austin is now outside of the cave and ready to go.

751
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,000
So Ben and I are going to head inside the cave.

752
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:43,000
Once we coordinate his movements, we'll give him the 3-2-1 and hopefully he'll launch just like a witch.

753
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,000
All right, Austin, you ready?

754
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Guys, I'm ready to fly.

755
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,000
I'm waiting on your countdown.

756
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Whenever you're ready, go ahead and call it.

757
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,000
Cameras framed up and rolling and we're starting our sweep.

758
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Okay.

759
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,000
And three.

760
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,000
Two.

761
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,000
One.

762
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Make the move.

763
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000
Did you see that?

764
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,000
You timed it perfect.

765
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,000
Hello, guys.

766
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Good job, man.

767
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Let me queue this up so we can watch it.

768
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,000
Okay, there's the panning.

769
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,000
She starts to pan that way.

770
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Hits it right there.

771
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:33,000
Your jump actually had the diagonal trajectory of the flight pattern in the original footage.

772
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:40,000
However, you see in the original video, it almost looks as if this thing was hovering in place

773
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
and then takes off from where it was.

774
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,000
You actually look like you're being propelled from, you know, your own motion.

775
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,000
This just looks almost as if it's being yanked out of frame.

776
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,000
What do you say we go put something together and pull it up the hill, huh?

777
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Let's go.

778
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Well, guys, you know, looking at our test footage and the original video,

779
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000
it certainly suggests that this was a hoax.

780
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,000
Well, let's just set up a quick pulley system above the mouth of the cave,

781
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,000
attach our dummy to a line, feed it through with enough tension

782
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
so that the dummy actually just hangs right here and looks like it's floating.

783
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,000
All right, once it's all rigged up, Austin, you can stay up there.

784
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000
Okay.

785
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,000
I'll take my place down here inside the cave and you can feed me the other line.

786
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,000
I'll be pulling that and you'll be filming.

787
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Perfect. Let's get started.

788
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,000
Let's dive down in our system.

789
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,000
Okay.

790
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000
Let's get to work.

791
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Don't hold that.

792
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Okay, we'll go position this one and then we'll feed the line down.

793
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,000
We have our pulley system in place.

794
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
We're going to angle it out just not right over the cave, but in an angle

795
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,000
because we want that force when it's pulled to pull the dummy up on that diagonal

796
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,000
that we saw in the video.

797
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,000
Right back here, we actually have our anchor point.

798
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Once we tie that up, it should give us that diagonal flight pattern

799
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
that we need to replicate the original footage.

800
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,000
All right, guys, I'm just about done tying our monofilament line.

801
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000
I'm going to come down now and start pulling on the other side

802
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000
so that it gives the line some tension.

803
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000
You can actually just sort of hover there in the bush.

804
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,000
Perfect.

805
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:38,000
All right, Ben, if you can give me some tension, I'll put the dummy right where we want them.

806
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Here you go.

807
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000
That's perfect.

808
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,000
I'm going to head to the vantage point.

809
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Our dummy's in position.

810
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,000
Once Jai-O frames up her shot, I'm going to come down here.

811
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,000
I'll pull this.

812
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
He should go up just like in David's video.

813
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,000
Austin, you ready?

814
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000
I'm ready.

815
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000
Okay, I'm getting ready to pull.

816
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Jai-O, you all framed up?

817
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,000
Cameras framed up and rolling.

818
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,000
Okay, I'm in position.

819
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,000
Let's do it.

820
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,000
All right, starting my pan.

821
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
And three.

822
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,000
Two.

823
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,000
One.

824
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,000
It's like riding the bull.

825
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Pull the dummy.

826
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Our dummy's in position.

827
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Once Jai-O frames up her shot, I'll pull this.

828
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,000
He should go up just like in David's video.

829
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Jai-O, you all framed up?

830
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Cameras framed up and rolling.

831
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Okay, I'm in position.

832
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000
Let's do it.

833
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
All right, starting my pan.

834
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,000
And three.

835
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,000
Two.

836
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,000
One.

837
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,000
It's like riding the bull.

838
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Pull the dummy.

839
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,000
We moved on to the hoax scenario that this bruja

840
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,000
could possibly just be a dummy being pulled by a string.

841
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
So here's what I captured on camera.

842
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Oh!

843
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,000
That looked just like the original video.

844
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000
Yeah.

845
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,000
You guys, this was a really simple assembly,

846
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
but there are multiple different ways that you could have rigged this

847
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,000
and got the exact same effect.

848
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,000
I think David Rojas faked this video.

849
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000
I'm gonna agree with Austin.

850
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000
I think everything was faked.

851
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000
I think you nailed this one.

852
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000
The only thing that could make it better is a confession,

853
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000
but this is hoaxed.

854
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,000
We gave Rojas the benefit of the doubt

855
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,000
and we listened to the story,

856
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,000
and we tried various popular theories,

857
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,000
but it turns out the most popular theory in this case was right.

858
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,000
I believe the video was hoaxed.

859
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,000
You guys nailed it.

860
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Case closed.